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Any Windows Mobile 5.0 + Trekbuddy experiences?
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temptrekbuddy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Any Windows Mobile 5.0 + Trekbuddy experiences? Reply with quote

Anybody?

Supposedly WM 5.0 phones have MIDP 2.0 support. Most have BT 2.0 so JSR-82 should be supported.

Still, I don't remember any user on this forum using a WM 5.0!?


The i600 seems like a nice GPS companion providing also superior WIFI connectivity
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I'm really considering buying the Samsung i600 still I won't do it until I make sure it runs TrekBuddy...

The only thing I found out was that Windows Mobile has had DUN removed which supposedly can interfere with GPS.

The requirements for TrekBuddy are:
Java MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.1
JSR-75/FileConnection API,
JSR-82/Bluetooth API,

and they seem to be fulfilled by Windows Mobile 5 phones.

If anybody would add any information on any of these topics I'd be grateful.


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kruch
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm dying to hear if TB runs on any WM5/6 device Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

UPDATE:

1) Found some info on GPSWatch website.
Quote:
GPSWatch Plus Runs on all Palm OS, Windows Mobile 5 based phones.

* - On Windows Mobile Based devices JSR-75 API framework may needs to be installed separately along with IBM J9

BTW: It seems to be cool app and now a Pocket PC + Windows Mobile version was developed.
Of course, as we all know no application tops TrekBuddy Very Happy (Kruch thanks again and again)

2) I found FPC Bench a benchmarking utility which is capable of telling what standards the phone fulfills:
- The test should probably be peformed using the version for Java MIDP 2.0 FPC_m2_ENG.jar
- Now I just need to find somebody with preferably an i600 or with a Windows Mobile 5 cell who is willing to install it

3) Phoned Samsung but they couldn't provide me with needed info. The specification here doesn't tell a thing.
If only they had a site like Sony Ericsson where you can find all stuff like this: example
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If everything goes well, I'll have WM5 device (HTC Charmer aka MDA Compact II) for testing on Monday.

Already downloaded J9 + pda-fc package; but jsr-82 package... is there any other implementation than avetana?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did a quick search jsr 82 and Windows Mobile:

Found some useful information on MGMaps site, which is a GPS java app also requiring jsr-75 and jsr-82:
According to it the bluetooth java implementation in Windows Mobile phones can be overcome by using IBM j9 and Navizon
Quote:
To install and run MGMaps and Navizon on Windows Mobile smartphones and Pocket PCs, take the following steps:
1. Install Navizon version 2.0.1.2 or newer. Get it from the Navizon download page.
2. Connect the GPS device by following the steps in the Setup Guide. Start Navizon, allow it to connect to the internet.
3. Leave Navizon it running in the background, then start Mobile GMaps version 1.27.04 or newer. Go to Settings/GPS and set the GPS Device to Navizon, also set the GPS Sync option to the desired mode. Save the settings and that's it!

source: http://www.mgmaps.com/news.php?item=67

P.S.
kruch wrote:
If everything goes well, I'll have WM5 device (HTC Charmer aka MDA Compact II) for testing on Monday.

Great Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have windows mobile 5 device (Dell x51). But i should install mobile java first... sun doesnt support it, so i should find some java emulation. any ideas which java should i install?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I plan to do when I get the PDA is

- install J9 (http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/zones/wireless/weme_eval_runtimes.html - WM5/ARM/CLDC11/MIDP20)
- add jsr-75 impl (http://service.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/pub/software/pervasive/updates/571/techs/features/com.ibm.weme.wm2003.arm.pdap-fc.runtime22_5.7.1.jar - found in http://www-306.ibm.com/software/pervasive/wsdd/updates/571/techs/site.xml; although built for WM2003/J9 5.7.1, it is reported to work with WM5/J9 6.1)
- setup GPS as described in http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/06/07/620387.aspx

TB could then work with the BT GPS as if it is serial port GPS - some subtle hacks in the code may be needed, but looks feasible to me Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE #2
Found 2 informative articles on the "j2me + Windows Mobile" topic:
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trekbuddy instaled through J9. it starts, but i think i need to install also file JSR and gps JSR. There is no text imput fields in Settings.

//edit:
i was instaling JSR-75, but it writes: The application descriptor was missing the required MIDlet-Name field.
it hasnt .jad file, its that the problem?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did you install jsr-75?

No text fields in Settings?? Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kruch wrote:
How did you install jsr-75?


i was just trying jar file from site which you have written before:
http://service.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/pub/software/pervasive/updates/571/techs/features/com.ibm.weme.wm2003.arm.pdap-fc.runtime22_5.7.1.jar

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought J9 could be used from command line, like

Code:
j9 -cp pdap-fc.jar;trekbuddy.jar cz.kruch.track.TrackingMIDlet


Or hopefully better with JAD, but I have no idea...

EDIT: Perhaps this is better: http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/1193, but somehow pdap-fc.jar needs to get to J9's classpath...
EDIT #2: Perhaps just copying pdap-fc.jar to J9's ext folder will be enough...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was trying a trick with autorun from the site which you have written. doesnt affect to TB.

When i was running MobyExplorer (an application to explore files and folders on mobile), it says: The device does not support the FileCOnnection API JSR-75

When i press Start in TB, it says Could not create provider []:
java.lang.NullPointerException (also with BT turned on)

//edit: trying to run MGmaps, but in settings of gps device, when i check bluetooth device, it says Bluetooth not available on this phone...

also it is possible to move standart world image only through hardware button, not through touch screen (on mgmaps it is possible both ways)

so i suppose i should install both JSR interfaces - file and bluetooth APIs (dont know why)

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the device I got is not WM5, but WM2003SE, but anyway... so far it is a "success" - loading maps from memory card works fine Wink
Here's the guide I used to add JSR-75 to J9 (6.1.1). Screen switching works fine as well.

Minor issues: png transparency does not seem to work well (see "crosshair").

The hardest part - GPS - is still ahead of me, but I'm optimistic Smile[/url]



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