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ed



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Code signing Reply with quote

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19.09.2006 15:30 My codesigning certificate request has been rejected by Thawte: "No company - no certificate"... Sad((


That's a pity. There's http://www.javaverified.com/ but that requires you to submit a finished application for verification and testing, and if it passes they sign it. It still costs money, and it's not nearly as convenient as having your own certificate.

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sarath



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this signing process is using SSL certificates, I can get it signed from geotrust if you like to, I am a reseller of SSLs from them. No need for the company, or you can just make something up. Smile But this still costs money. Around $40.

Guys! please donate to the project...

PS: Kruch, set up a paypal account and we will see what can be done Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think that SSL certificates can be used fo code signing, and a quick look at the geotrust website tells me that that they sell "Code Signing Credentials" ... for Windows Mobile! Bad luck.

Anyway, a local partner of Thawte here in CZ is helping me with explaining them that there are other ways of "doing business" in Czech Republic, without having a company registered.
We'll see.

Thanks for your support Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Final word from Thawte: no way I can get a codesigning certificate as an individual.

Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad news Sad

MIDP 2.0 specification doesn't allow to install Java root certificates freely, only by equipment producers when phones are customized (source - SE Developers site). Thawte is only signing received PKI for its root certificate.
Not all of mobile operators have phones with certificates preinstalled.
So probably you already have Java security root certificates in phone or not.
Which ? Who knows. Everyone can check this in own phone.
If you don't, you don't need a signed midlet too.

In effect, you can use a subset of functions only for development.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, TrekBuddy sucks on SE phones because of security prompts whenever a map slice is about to be loaded. Nokia and Siemens has fortunately relaxed security model implementation and also mature FileConnection implementation; do not know about other vendors.

But just a minute ago I saw a post in czech section of this forum that SE phones (like K750i etc) may be patched! And that one of many patches available is the one that removes security prompts! If that will work, we may have a workaround for using TrekBuddy on SE...


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hacking phone - this is not solution for typical user.
If something goes wrong, phone is unusable.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... have tested the patch on a w800@k750 and it works.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that leaves me in a bind...

The only patches for w800i are R1BCxx firmware patches. Problem for me is that the R1BCxx firmware won't read .mp4 tags, so I've gone back to R1AAxxx firmware. I'm stuck! Trekbuddy ... or ... mp4 tags!??
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Do this solve your mp4 problem ? Reply with quote

Haven't tested it but is this a patch for your problem

3gp_to_mp4_v3_w800_r1bc002.zip

"readme"
;Support mp4 extension now available in VideoDJ
;Support all extention of imported images now available in VideoDJ
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Do this solve your mp4 problem ? Reply with quote

ME wrote:
Haven't tested it but is this a patch for your problem

Unfortunately not. The problem is with showing song/artist names in the Walkman player software. In previous versions, MP4 files show artist & song, but in the latest only the filename. Why? Because SE stuffed up I guess.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorrys missed "TAGS", it maybe had to give upp it's space for a bugg fix
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
sorrys missed "TAGS", it maybe had to give upp it's space for a bugg fix


it was ME
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranger wrote:

MIDP 2.0 specification doesn't allow to install Java root certificates freely, only by equipment producers when phones are customized (source - SE Developers site). Thawte is only signing received PKI for its root certificate.


Hi, newbie k800 owner here.

I know as a fact that self generated & signed CA root certificate can be installed into k800 and probably other SE phones as well. But is it really impossible to install java certificates in same manner? Anyone tried this?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ave wrote:

I know as a fact that self generated & signed CA root certificate can be installed into k800 and probably other SE phones as well. But is it really impossible to install java certificates in same manner? Anyone tried this?


I tried it. You need certificate in DER coding and you must send it to phone over bluetooth (or download from web using internal browser). If incoming certificate is detected, phone offer you to install it, but you can't select keystore, it is automaticaly placed into 'Trusted cert.' keystore. Unfortunately certificates in this store are used only for SSL communication, not for Java apps. You also can't move certificate to other keystore, there is only 'Delete' option. So now I have my own root certificate installed in phone, but if I tried install signed midlet, phone denied it.
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