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240x320 5-panel HECL-CMS for Flying
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thomast



Joined: 16 Jan 2009
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: 240x320 5-panel HECL-CMS for Flying Reply with quote

Hallo Trekkys,
here my first CMS.
Its basically made for Hangglider Pilots.
It has at the Moment 5 Screens, i call them Views.
The Fonts are made from MaleSMurf, i hope it was allowed to use them ?

The User "gdpno69" has made a modified Version of this CMS
You ´find it on Page 3 of this Threat with Time stamp:
Mon 28 Sep, 2009 17:32:54

http://www.trekbuddy.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3177&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=38

Short Description.
Common in all views:
Top left is the Name of the View "Windview,Climbview,Perfview,Altiview and Targetview"
Top right is the GPS Stautus.
Next Line left Time, right Waypoint Name.
At the Bottom a Status Line.
The Vertical Speed is Calculated by Hand,to overcome the TB Bug with the Internal GPS.
Glideratio is shown if Vertical Speed is at least -0.3m/s

Description of each View:
Windview:
When you fly some smooth Circles the Script try to detect Windspeed and Direction.
In the upper Part you see Speed over Ground and Course,
in the lower Part Windspeed and Direction,when the Script has found it.
Otherwise -1.
Statusline shows how old is the Windcalculation.


Climbview:
SOG,
Distance to Waypoint,
AVG Vario over 5 Samples
Altitude.


Perfview (experimantely)
If the Script knows the Windspeed and Direction it trys to calculate
youre Speed through the Air.
Then it trys to Calculate youre Gliderade though the Air.
If Wind not known both -1
next Line again Avg vario then Altitude.


Altiview
shows different Altitudes,easy to understand.


Targetview
is made in Italy by "gdpno69"
It shows dist2WP,
Altitude,
Course as slider,
Gliderate over Ground calulated over 10 Samples,
Dir. to WP al slider,
Altitude of Waypoint,
and maybe the next Version
required Gliderario to reach the WP.(If Kruch give us a new Version with HECL Access to wp-alt and so on.At the Moment alway 0.

Statusline shows the Filling Level of the 60 Sample FIFO.


2FView
Showing best speed to fly calculated on the polare, wind and "downwind"

All in One view
showing all important information in one screen

This CMS is not much testet,if you find a Bug report it here.
Helpfully is a NMEA Log of TB.


Changelog:
dd.mm.yyyy
22.09.2009 last >Version had an Bug,LD GND was not working
18.09.2009 new Wind detection algor. with less cpu usage
06.09.2009 only 2 views:s2fview and allinoneView.new arrows to wp
25.08.09 ld_req is now working with 0.9.88 and higher
28.07.09 light changes in the view from Troubadixx,more changes in the S2Fiew:with key 2 windvalues are copied in the S2F Calculator
14.07.09 new view from troubadixx
24.06.09 some new internal changes for a better maintenance,Windview is now working when speed with rearwind is min 15kmh(4Paragliders) and wind is min 2kmh
some helptext in the statusline
15.06.2009 new Hires Analog Vario,nicer better Windview calculates only if speed with rearwind is min 25kmh,better S2F Algo.
01.06.2009 adding Analog Vario.removing redundant Information's,altiview and perfview are gone
21.05.2009 Implementing s2f Computer,tas is not longer calculated on the autowinddetect. 3 new Inputpanels
03.05.2009 first Version



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some small cosmetic changes
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MaleSMurf



Joined: 10 Sep 2007
Posts: 120

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 240x320 5-panel HECL-CMS for Flying Reply with quote

thomast wrote:
Hallo Trekkys,
The Fonts are made from MaleSMurf, i hope it was allowed to use them ?


It's great to see quite different CMS...
Not only my CMS in a "(slightly) modified" version... Wink
Of course you can use everything from my CMS you want!
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duartemelim



Joined: 02 Nov 2007
Posts: 126
Location: Funchal CR7/Madeira-Portugal

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: "fly" cms Reply with quote

nice work Wink
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troubadixx



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Addon panel 16 Reply with quote

Hi ThomasT!

Absolutely great theme - THANKS A LOT for the effort!!!

Building on your and MaleSMurf's work, I took the liberty of adding another screen/view to your theme.

Since I don't like switching screens in-flight, I was aiming to get all essential information for XC paragliding on one screen.

From top to bottom
* Time, next waypoint, distance to next waypoint
* Waypoint alti, bearing (azi in trekbuddy slang - I'm used to the Garmin wording, though)
* Required glide ratio, heading (course in trekbuddy slang)
* Analog vario
* Speed and haeding
* Digital vario
* Altitude, glide ratio
* Wind speed and direction
* wind-status, sat, fix, status

The result works quite well for me.
Let me know what you think...

Attached the additional/changed files
1) cms.air16.xml, air_panel16.png: Added view
2) air.hcl: Very slightly modified version of thomast's air.hcl: Changed only one line so that changing the vario axis works also in the new view.

Cheers,
Troubadixx.



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troubadixx



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Vario analog, digital, number of decimal places, etc. Reply with quote

Hallo thomast,

ich hätte noch 2 Fragen - since I don't speak HECL (yet) Smile
Please don't be harsh on me if I misinterpreted something and below am writing BS Smile

In your theme, for the "analog" as well as for the digital vario, with air::climb-05 you're using a 5 sample average of the vertical speed. You state that you're doing this calculation by hand because of the vertical speed bug.

Two questions:

1) Why not use a "one-sample" value for the analog display (vs. an integrated sample average for the digital display)?
That way you would add some information (beyond having the same values available in analog as well as in digital form).

2) Could we get rid of the 2nd and 3rd decimal place in the digital vario? How to?
I know already how I'll use the additional space in panel_16: I could build an altitude over time profile similar to MailSMurf in his "Alt" panel http://www.trekbuddy.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2923

Looking forward to hearing from you,
cheers,
Troubadixx.
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thomast



Joined: 16 Jan 2009
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Vario analog, digital, number of decimal places, etc. Reply with quote

Hi Troubadixx,

Quote:
1) Why not use a "one-sample" value for the analog display (vs. an integrated sample average for the digital display)?

I think the GPS Altitude is not stable enough.
If the Altitude is going up only 1 Digit(1m) the "one sample vario" would show 1m/s climbing,if altitude go back 1Digit it shows 1m/s sinking.
1 Digit over 5 Samples give only 0.2m/s

Quote:
That way you would add some information (beyond having the same values available in analog as well as in digital form).

But the digital one can also show 20m/s the analog not.
At the Moment i calculate 10sample and 5sample vario, so maybe the next Version could show the 10sample digitalvario,sometimes interesting to see if it gos up and down in a thermal.

Quote:
2) Could we get rid of the 2nd and 3rd decimal place in the digital vario? How to?

I want also only 2 decimal places but hecl gives me a 0 a third,i don't no why.

If you can life with 1 decimalplace and a following 0, this should do that (not tested):

set air::climb-05 [/ [floor [* 10 [/ [* 1000 $air::alt-d05] $air::time-d05 ]]] 10]
It works so:
eg 1.123456 * 10 = 11.23456
floor 11.23456 = 11
11 /10 =1.1(0)


Quote:
I know already how I'll use the additional space in panel_16: I could build an altitude over time profile similar to MailSMurf in his "Alt" panel.

This my arrays:
air::time {} containing the timestamps in ms(since 1980 or so)
air::alt {} containing absolute alt in m
the newest values are on top(61) the oldest is in nr 0
air::n is the length of the array,in the moment initialized with 60,after start 1 more(61)

Ich hoffe die Antwort hilft dir,bin gespannt auf die neue TB version.
Die soll heute nacht kommen und sound unterstuetzen.
Vielleicht bringen wir das Vario noch zum Piepsen...

Gruss,
Thomas
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BlueDragonFS



Joined: 05 May 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any possibility of 176x220 version?
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troubadixx



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Vario analog, digital, number of decimal places, etc. Reply with quote

Hallo Thomas,

thanks a lot for the quick reply and your comprehensive explanations.

I guess I'll play around a bit with the integration interval of the vario. I'll do some practical in-flight/in-paragliding testing and see how it goes...

The decimal place behavior thing is strange. Thanks for the hints.

The sound feature sounds promising - looking forward to it Smile
(On the other hand: The gps based "vario simulation" will keep the fundamental disadvantage of being less accurate and less responsive than the "real" barometric vario... So I'll probably keep my Solario for the time being Smile)

Viele Grüße,
Troubadixx.
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thomast



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Vario analog, digital, number of decimal places, etc. Reply with quote

Hi troubadixx,
Yesterday I saw only youre second Post,so today i will try youre CMS,but only on my Bicycle on the Way to the Beergarden...
troubadixx wrote:

I'll do some practical in-flight/in-paragliding testing and see how it goes...

Let me here about youre experience, i am very interested.
If you set Treckbuddy logging to nmea, you can play later with the hecl Parameter at Home in Simulation Mode.


Quote:
So I'll probably keep my Solario for the time being Smile)

but maybe one day you forgot youre Vario an than...

Happy Landings,
Thomas
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thomast



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi troubadixx,
looks nice, but you need good eyes Shocked

Maybe we should call it eagle-eye-view...

So i upload a new zip File in the first Post, with the new CMS from
troubadixx.
Including the modified hecl.

Thomas



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thomast



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueDragonFS wrote:
Is there any possibility of 176x220 version?


Sorry BlueDragonFS,
its to much work.
it is not complicate(now changes in the hecl are needed)but it need many time to adjust the Fontsizes etc.
And i cannot test it, because i have not a Mobile with that resolution.

But try you're self,if you have questions i try to help.

Greetings,
Thomas
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thomast



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

new Version:

dd.mm.yyyy
28.07.09 ligth changes in the view from Troubadixx,
more changes in the S2Fiew:with key 2 windvalues are copied in the S2F Calculator

Thomas



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Vario Reply with quote

Hello, could you explain me please whether and how it is possible to download this amazing vario application please? Thanks, Vojtech
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: I'm stupid, Reply with quote

sorry about previous question, I was trying to open the link in a new window. Zip file is downloaded but I've got another problem; could you explain me someone how to get it into my phone?? N95.
Thank you very much.

Great work guys!!
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thomast



Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
at first you need a installed Trekbuddy with Version 0.9.84 or higher.

than copy the Content of the ZIP File in the Tb UI Folder:
E:\Trekbuddy\ui-profiles
if you install TB onto the memory card.

thats it.

Start TB,
press two times #
now you should see the CMS

with left and rigth key you can switch between the different views.

Thomas
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