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About Egnos Waas (DGPS)

 
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matb76



Joined: 13 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: About Egnos Waas (DGPS) Reply with quote

Hi,
i have a SIRF star III gps receiver. I'd like to switch the differential GPS feature on; does anybody knows how is this possible from the phone directly, without PC connection?
I think DGPS gives a great precision advantage over plain GPS; It would be cool to see it implemented in trekbuddy.
I found this thread http://www.trekbuddy.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=233&highlight=egnos
but i could not make much sense of it.
Any idea?
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Ranger



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use TestGPS2 from


http://sweb.cz/happyBOY78/GPSAPI.zip

to set SBAS and DGPS from phone.
No SN unfortunately.
Source code for app is present, maybe some java programmers will add set/reset SN function in future (sorry, but I'm not).


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matb76



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranger wrote:
You can use TestGPS2 from

http://sweb.cz/happyBOY78/GPSAPI.zip

to set SBAS and DGPS from phone. No SN unfortunatelly.

Thanks for the link.
N00b question: what' do you mean for 'SN'?
Here's the fixed url (typo): http://sweb.cz/happyBOY78/GPSAPI.zip
Thanks again.
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Ranger



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SN means Static Navigation (or car mode if you prefer).
For SirfStarIII receivers this mode prevents position movements for slow speed (<4 km/hour). Should be turned off for hiking/geocaching in many receivers - just look into forum Devices section for started receivers list.
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matb76



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranger wrote:
SN means Static Navigation (or car mode if you prefer).
For SirfStarIII receivers this mode prevents position movements for slow speed (<4 km/hour). Should be turned off for hiking/geocaching in many receivers - just look into forum Devices section for started receivers list.

Ok i know what you mean. I'm fine with having it off, i'm using GPS mainly for hiking, SN would make things worse.
Thanks!
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krzysiekz



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this app work on n6230i? I got nullpointexception when trying to my gps (nemerix based).
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matb76



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krzysiekz wrote:
Is this app work on n6230i? I got nullpointexception when trying to my gps (nemerix based).

AFAIK, it's only for SIRFstart III chipset.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx. I read somewhere that nemerix support dgps... Even without it i've got ~4.5m accuracy ;) but tried to enable it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krzysiekz wrote:
Thx. I read somewhere that nemerix support dgps... Even without it i've got ~4.5m accuracy Wink but tried to enable it.

This tool, as you can read in the included docs, is only for SIRFstar III.
Google for your chipset to see if and how it is possible.
On a side note, i reckon that the precision meter (which i guess is based on the HDOP value) should not change its value with EGNOS. Can anyone confirm this?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends. Position precision in TB is counted from HDOP for external modules, as no other values suitable in NMEA to show precision.
Phones with integrated GPS have precision directly in meters.

So as I understand you, question is how HDOP is DGPS involved in external GPS module.
Who knows ? Docs for GPS modules are rather obsolete Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranger wrote:

So as I understand you, question is how HDOP is DGPS involved in external GPS module.
Who knows ? Docs for GPS modules are rather obsolete Sad

I had a more deep look into the issue; HDOP is derived only from geometrical factors (the relative position between the receiver and the SV themselves). Therefore DGPS correction do not affect it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be. I don't assume that your question sounds like importance of using SBAS or DGPS in simple hiking navigation.
TB is rather universal (means no too much specialized support for modules chipsets or protocols like sirf mode).
So you can turn on such module modes at least and expect that better coordinates will be shown in TB Smile
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