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kruch
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is for 3rd only.
I thought that S60 2nd did not have that "file bug"... are tar maps too slow in 0.9.80?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes very slow....I mus untar all files and get it to memorycard.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to make a special SIS for S60 2nd...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kruch wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Mmmh, it looks like a split for S60 2nd and 3rd edition, they use different api's.


I would not bother with S60 2nd, they are practically unusable for TB anyway..


Hi kruch,
Maybe that's not 100% accurate.
I do use TB on a s60 2nd (Nokia 6630) and I do complain about a couple of problems but I wouldn't say that TB is unusable on a s60 2nd.

Main issues for me:
- TB crashes my phone with a "No Memory" message from time to time only while I am logging GPX or NMEA
- Can't take a snapshot picture or else TB will exit by itself
- TB doesn't stop phone's keyboard from locking when using autolock tool (TB pauses whenever this occurs)
- TB doesn't stop phone from going into screensaver mode (TB pauses whenever this occurs)

None of these issues are new, I've been experiencing them since almost 1 year and I am already running 0.9.81.

1st issue has been happening less and less since I started using full arrows like you told me to do here.
I am currently using these since their filesize is only ~5Kb while the ones in your post are ~20Kb.
Am I reading the problem properly? Which ones are better? The ones you posted or the ones I am using right now?
I wonder if I can further improve this new better behavior if I find a way to use just a small red cross instead of a bunch of arrows and crosshairs Rolling Eyes. Is there a way to have TB working with no crosshair or arrow and with only a small ugly moving cross?
2nd issue is a big bummer, I'd love to take pictures with embedded geo tags but I can live without that. Or maybe I'm just misconfiguring this feature, I don't know.
3rd and 4th issues can be avoided by using a torch tool such as this one.
One special request: I would love to have a smaller footprint version of TB without the Map/Atlas features.
For OSMing all I need is the GPX grabber and it would be cool to keep the HPS and the CMS in it.
Would you be able to make me a special build like that? Maybe that way TB wouldn't crash with "No Memory" messages.
Many thanks Wink
Cheers

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad to hear I was wrong, really. I made terrible experience with TB on 6680 long time ago. I reallygave up on S60 2nd.

But I can see memory is still a bit of problem. If you say that using full arrows helps, I should review "safe renderer" code path to see if it is fully implemented. It wasn't originally called "S60 renderer" for no reason.

Instability of mmapi (taking pictures) is no big surprise, unfortunately. But I'll google a bit about it...

As far as screensaver stopping is considered, I'll make TrekBuddyService available for S60 2nd too, it should solve the problem.

Ad smaller footprint version: default built-in world map would be enough for you?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kruch wrote:
I'm glad to hear I was wrong, really. I made terrible experience with TB on 6680 long time ago. I reallygave up on S60 2nd.

Maybe I'm wrong and I have just been plain lucky in the last couple of days but it's working fairly nice apart from the TARed maps being slow and the camera crash/exit.

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But I can see memory is still a bit of problem. If you say that using full arrows helps, I should review "safe renderer" code path to see if it is fully implemented. It wasn't originally called "S60 renderer" for no reason.

Then that's what the safe renderer is for! Idea
I'd be very much appreciated if you'd check it's implementation.
On my end I promise I'll test TB with and without safe renderer in the next few days to see if there's any change in behavior.
But to be honest, since I've started using small size arrows and crosshairs (5Kb)AND a torch tool that keeps the phone busy Cool without screensaver AND without keypad lock popping up...
I think that I still haven't seen a crash since then.

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Instability of mmapi (taking pictures) is no big surprise, unfortunately. But I'll google a bit about it...

Don't loose your sleep over this feature.
It is a must for OSMing but I really can live without it.

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As far as screensaver stopping is considered, I'll make TrekBuddyService available for S60 2nd too, it should solve the problem.

Hmmm, and does the TrekBuddyService take care of the screen backlight issues (a.k.a. screensaver) as well as the keypad locking tools?
Then that should be a must for s60 2nd users. Smile

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Ad smaller footprint version: default built-in world map would be enough for you?

I'm trying to save all the nifty little bits of kilobytes to see if the phone stops showing "No Memory".
If you say that a) having the standard world map or b) having no map at all doesn't have an impact on memory usage then never mind my request. Wink
BTW, which are the best arrows? The ones that you posted or the ones that I found?
Hella of a GPS tool you've made us kruch, keep up the good work. Very Happy
Cheers

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: TrekBuddyServiceS60.SIS Reply with quote

Hello KRUCH,

sorry I'm extremly new here Wink

what can I do with the TrekBuddyServiceS60.SIS? Is this an Addon for the TrekBuddy.jar? Or did I understand really false?

thanks....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to install it. It is a TrekBuddy companion app for S60 3rd environment... read more here.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not have S60 2nd for testing, can anybody try if this installs? Wink


TrekBuddyService2nd.SIS
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 Filename:  TrekBuddyService2nd.SIS
 Filesize:  3.9 KB
 Downloaded:  61 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How to start this service.
I have no icons for staring this service

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FoG



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LiborM007 wrote:
How to start this service.
I have no icons for staring this service

LiborM


The same happen to me. But i could run the app manually with a file explorer (fexplorer), but it looks it does nothing to TB. Maybe i'm doing something wrong.

Adiós.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it create tbsvc.log in Others folder on memory card?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kruch wrote:
Did it create tbsvc.log in Others folder on memory card?


Here you have mine. I hope it's useful for you.

It didn't let me attach the file because of the extension, so copy and paste:

[01.09 16:34:52.984375] service start
[01.09 16:34:53.265625] Master not initialized yet
[01.09 16:34:53.468750] protocol started
[01.09 16:34:53.609375] Master listening
[01.09 16:36:59.921875] incoming connection
[01.09 16:38:04.625000] last operation error: -25; state 1
[01.09 16:38:04.734375] servant leaving

I hope it's useful for you.

Bye.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it works... somewhat. I'm glad it installed. Backlight control will not work but tar-ed maps (with .tmi) could work ok...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But...wasn't trekbuddyservice built to control the phone backlight?
Could you explain why TBService was actually built for and why do you say that 2nd edition won't be able to control the phone backlight?
Thanks Smile

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